Settlement Statement - The Only Way To Locate Yield Spread Premium
Locating the yield spread premium rip-off is virtually impossible except at closing on the settlement statement known as the HUD1 Settlement Statement. Of course, by then it’s too late!
Other non settlement statement mortgage disclosures specifically the Good Faith Estimate (the mortgage application disclosure) are useless for discovering yield spread premium overcharging since most brokers either never disclose or obfuscate the disclosure as you’ll see below.
First, if you are dealing with a bank or a mortgage company that closes loans in their own name (these companies get the same favorable treatment as banks) you won’t find YSP disclosure ANYWHERE!
Banks don’t by law have to show you their increased revenue from upping your rate. You won’t see it at application or at closing on a bank settlement statement.
So given that, you simply never…and I repeat…never use a bank or those who get “bank treatment” for mortgage financing. I know that sounds harsh, but it’s true. The banks like Countrywide, Wells Fargo, Washington Mutual, etc. are not the low cost provider of mortgage money and they never will be.
When it comes to mortgage brokers, you are going to have difficulty getting them to show you the YSP they put into their loans as well. They make almost two thirds of their income from yield spread premium rate bumping and unless you can demonstrate you know it’s real and will not stand for it, you have little chance of avoiding it.
Let me say that again….everyone else (those not reading this tutorial) have little chance to avoid the YSP rip-off.
Suffice it to say, you only have a chance to eliminate the increased rate when dealing with a broker since by law they are the only ones who have to show it to you. The law says they must disclose it on the Good Faith Estimate, which they usually bypass by using a blanket “0-4%” to cover their butt. The actual YSP (not a range) must and will appear on the HUD1 Settlement Statement.
It will be on line 810 or 811…somewhere in the high 800’s.
Click on the images below (click again to return here) for an example. The first image shows the 2nd page of HUD1 Settlement Statement and down in the lines 800+…you’ll see nothing. So that loan closed with no YSP. That’s what you want your settlement statement to look like.

In the the next image, once again a 2nd page of HUD1 Settlement Statement, in the 800’s this time you’ll see the phrase Broker Rebate on the left…and all the way over to the right you’ll see a number…it doesn’t look like a dollar amount, but believe it is! This is the YSP cash compensation on this loan! (This is an actual closing before we capped all our compensation at 1%).
What you’re likely to find if you take the test below, is a charge on line 801 on page 2 of the settlement statement. Take the Origination Fee…and the charge on the YSP line…add those two numbers together to see what the broker made on your loan. Don’t forget to look through the settlement statement for any other fees payable to the broker too…things like Mortgage broker fee or processing fees.

Did You Get Ripped-Off On Your Last Loan?
As a test, grab the settlement statement from your last loan closing (assuming you closed with a broker…banks don’t disclose by law) and check out the lines reserved for YSP on the HUD1 Settlement Statement. Just as in the examples above, you’ll see verbiage that reads something like:
1. Yield spread premium paid to broker by lender or
2. Broker Rebate
3. YSP
It’s disclosed on the far left hand side of the HUD1 Settlement Statement then move across to find the dollar amount. Charges outlined in this area of the Settlement Statement are what they call POC charges.
POC stands for Paid Outside of Closing. Meaning the lender is paying the broker his YSP dollars outside of closing…that is how YSP is legally described…”Broker compensation paid by the lender outside of closing”.
This is why it doesn’t show up in the Borrower Cost column on the settlement statement…and this is one of the ready-made “explain away” excuses you’ll hear should you challenge your broker after discovering it.
The loan officer might say,”Hey, if this was a charge to you we’d legally have to put in the Borrower Cost column.”
Sounds like a plausible argument, right? Sure, but it’s BS.
If the broker hadn’t put you in a higher rate than necessary, the lender wouldn’t be rebating him in the first place. So, even though the lender is paying it at closing, you’re paying it in the higher monthly payments you’ll be making to the lender for the next 30 years.
Don’t be shocked when you see a YSP of $4,000 and an Origination fee of $2,000 on a $200,000 loan amount on your next settlement statement. Those amounts represent 2% and 1% respectively on the loan amount which is a common percentage for YSP and origination.
Typically you won’t see the HUD1 Settlement Statement until closing day, so the average consumer doesn’t have a chance to spot it and get it removed. Actually the only way to truly avoid it is to locate an ethical mortgage broker and lock the rate originally without it. Since YSP is stuffed into your loan by selling you a higher rate…proper rate locking is the only cure. And then as a safety measure, ask to see the HUD1 Settlement Statement 24 hours in advance to be sure. You have that legal right provided by law.
If you’d like to learn a step-by-step method of locating, interviewing, and hiring an ethical local broker who’ll let you see the HUD1 Settlement Statement prior to closing, and never take hidden YSP profits, look at The Mortgage Advantage.
Good Luck!
Author: Rob K. Blake
Published January 3, 2008
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Munro,
Yes, but it’s what I call “hiding in plain sight”…reporting the YSP on the Good Faith Esitmate is usually done as a “range” - 0-4% or like you said 0-$4,000…that’s hardly a disclosure!
How is someone supposed to shopping when everyone is reporting a range or not at all in the case of the banks?
That’s why I say it’s important to shop for the “ethical provider” first…someone who doesn’t charge YSP at all. Therefore, has no need to obfuscated the Good Faith Estimate with “ranges”…is straight forward with their compensation.
They are out there…if you know how and where to look. Check out The Mortgage Advantageto learn more if you’d like…
http://themortgageinsider.net/the-mortgage-advantage/
Good Luck,
February 5th, 2008 at 4:21 pmRKB
Does HUD require that YSP be disclosed on the GFE of Mortgage Brokers and if so, do they also require that a dollar range (ie: $0-2000, $3000-$4000) be included on the GFE.
Thanks
February 5th, 2008 at 4:09 pmYes, provided the company you are paying the origination fee to is not a bank…but a broker.
Banks are NOT bound by the same disclosure rules. So you must be sure.
Look on the HUD for the another company name on the Underwriting Fee or Admin Fee…if you don’t see one or it is the same company…you’re closing with a bank or company that funds like a bank…and therefore you won’t see the profit made by jacking up your rate.
If you are dealing with a true brokered closing, also look to see they didn’t get another 1% in the form of a Broker Fee or some other borrower paid substantial fee.
Then you’ll know..
December 22nd, 2007 at 4:28 pmRob K. Blake
Hi:
I am trying to get educated here. If I have a “loan originaltion fee” in my HUD settlement statement of, say, 1% in “buyer paid” column and nothing like what you show in your “paid outside of closing” area in the 800’s, does that mean I am not getting ripped off by the YSP procedure?
December 22nd, 2007 at 2:24 pmMr. Ramirez,
The only study on YSP worth quoting was done a few years ago my at Harvard by Prof. Jackson. Here are his words in sworn testimony before Congress:
“…the vast majority of borrowers pay yield spread premiums - on the order of 85 to 90 percent of all transactions. Moreover, …the yield spread premiums is quite substantial,…making these payments the most important single source of revenue for mortgage brokers.
In other words, contrary to the Departments assumptions, YSP is not an optional form of financing made available to a limited number of borrowers with special needs. Rather these payments constitute by far the largest source of compensation for mortgage brokers and are imposed on almost all borrowers who obtain mortgages or refinances through this segment of the industry.”
So clearly if 90% of the loans had YSP…that would have to mean 90% of American “needed” the lender to pay the closing costs…yea, right!
Prof. Jackson went on to debunk the myth that YSP is used as you say to cover closing costs as in his study and the thousands of loans he reviewed…only a hand full of loans used all the YSP to cover the hard closing costs…if the YSP did cover the costs it was ALSO used to give the broker ALL of his INCOME on the loan as well…not as altruistic a picture as you’d like to paint…
Now that I’ve crushed that ridiculous argument for the 8th Billion time…let me ask you…even though we know YSP isn’t used solely to cover costs…IF it was…and you found a borrower that can’t scrape together $4K for closing costs…
…which is better for the client…getting the seller to cover the costs in the contract…or using YSP knowing the rate will get jacked up??
Obvious answer…
Now you may say, “Well you can’t always find a seller willing to pay costs”.
True…but you see…my point is even for a very small part of the market (those who can’t cover their own costs), there are better options than using YSP…(get the seller to)…dwindling the pool even further…
Which of course, is why Prof. Jackson could not find any evidence to support you contention YSP is used to “help” buyers/borrowers with no money for costs.
Instead he found 90% of the loans had on average 1.7% of YSP …not used for costs…but definitely there as Originating Company income…that really makes more sense too…right?
Just using “common sense” which definition of YSP makes more sense knowing a “substantial” YSP appears on 90% of all loans closed in America?
1. YSP is an altruistic way to help the few downtrodden borrowers who don’t have enough money to cover the modest amount of closing costs…..OR,
2. YSP is a hidden method to double or triple the revenue on virtually every loan closed…..
Oops…another Obvious Answer…
God I hope I don’t ever have to refute this BS “closing cost” excuse for YSP overcharging ever again!
Hey, but thanks for stopping by…
Rob K. Blake
November 13th, 2007 at 1:08 amThe Mortgage Insider
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